street car or just respectable

[MILNER]

so say someone built a car that had a water to air Intercooled 101mm turbo charged BB that put 1200 to 1500 to the tires and could drive it anywhere. What would it be a street car or simply just respectable?

[onefastermonte85]

how big of tires, is the interior gutted? frame tubbed.
drives it everywhere on pump gas ?? Does he actually hook? if its inspected, registered, insured, and driven, in most cases its a street car, full exhaust, etc.. etc...

answer most likely is "street car :)

[Z28]

Awesome Streetcar!!

[i'm drivin']

hot damn now we are talkin! driven anywhere.... we would call that the car everyone wants to own, to hell with respect or street, is called jealousy or envy, take your pick cause thats what you'll have if you aint the guy holdin the pink slip to that assassin!

[8 Second Nova]

I second Mr. Z's quote.

[THE STING]

so say someone built a car that had a water to air Intercooled 101mm turbo charged BB that put 1200 to 1500 to the tires and could drive it anywhere. What would it be a street car or simply just respectable?



If it street legal and he cruz's the car it does not really matter what guys think it is.

if that were the case then what if someone brought out a 550hp T-bucket that would be deffinetly be streetable and be plenty fast at under 2000lbs.

If guys want to claim to be the #1 car they must run all cars that are out there cruzing. If its a one hit wonder car that does not cruz much or cannot drive it very far then he would be a POSER.

[10secvega]

By defanition,A "respectable" street car must
Be able to cruise anywhere at freeway speeds (Flow of traffic not holding it up)
Run on pump gas to the distanation
Have working lights,turn signals,wipers,and radio
Must have a full stock appearing interior

So i would condider that a healthy,Respectable Street Car!!

[THE STING]

I really dont care if its respectable or not, if the dude is out there cruzing and thinks he is the man,.were gonna race.

Back in the 80s and 90s there was none of this respectable shit,..if you thought you were the shit you raced who was out there,.you didn't ask the guy if he can drive the freaken thing to florida at 85mph,....it was you cruz this spot and so do i,...lets see who owns it. no excuses.


The sting and my bro's dont care if its your grannies every day car or your freaken drag car, if its on the street and you think you own it,. were gonna run ya and find out. NOW thats old school baby and that how i Roll.

[9secmach1]

I really dont care if its respectable or not, if the dude is out there cruzing and thinks he is the man,.were gonna race.

Back in the 80s and 90s there was none of this respectable shit,..if you thought you were the shit you raced who was out there,.you didn't ask the guy if he can drive the freaken thing to florida at 85mph,....it was you cruz this spot and so do i,...lets see who owns it. no excuses.


The sting and my bro's dont care if its your grannies every day car or your freaken drag car, if its on the street and you think you own it,. were gonna run ya and find out. NOW thats old school baby and that how i Roll.


Ouch looks Ed struck a nerve with the amc boys. If I get beat by a larger cubed, half interiored, race gas only, lightened up ol turd, I will not be giving that guy respect for beating me.

[10secvega]

I really dont care if its respectable or not, if the dude is out there cruzing and thinks he is the man,.were gonna race.

Back in the 80s and 90s there was none of this respectable shit,..if you thought you were the shit you raced who was out there,.you didn't ask the guy if he can drive the freaken thing to florida at 85mph,....it was you cruz this spot and so do i,...lets see who owns it. no excuses.


The sting and my bro's dont care if its your grannies every day car or your freaken drag car, if its on the street and you think you own it,. were gonna run ya and find out. NOW thats old school baby and that how i Roll.
So if i buy Warren Johnson's pro stock GTO,Slap a license plate on it,tape a couple Mag lights to the front end and drive it 2 blocks to the plaza from my house.You would consider it a street car? and race me?with no excuses?

[i'm drivin']

lol! sting gotta say that last post be it maybe only in print, makes you look like a spaz. obviously things were different in the 80's and 90's, but that dont mean they were better. see as time evolves so do our expectations and requirements of what is worth while of using up some of the life of the parts that hard earned money is spent on to run someone. if you aint in the same level you aint worth the time or trouble. so roll on back to the 80's and get your mullet trimmed up.

[8 Second Nova]

IMO, if a car is "legal" to drive on the street. It is a street car. If I build a back halfed, big tire, big cube, 4 linked, light car, it can still be a street car. Freeway cruising speed, mpg, fuel type, interior appearance ... are just a matter of convienience, not the determining factor of a "respectable" street car or not.

I think the respectable term should come from how good the car runs for what it is. Does it run like it was built to? If you get beat by a car on the street with big cubic inches, big tires, minimal interior ... you shouldn't disrepect. You just messed with the wrong Nova, I mean guy. Or you built the wrong car. :)

[THE STING]

Ouch looks Ed struck a nerve with the amc boys. If I get beat by a larger cubed, half interiored, race gas only, lightened up ol turd, I will not be giving that guy respect for beating me.



You make more excuses than anyone on here and cry the same old song time and time again. pretty pathetic. you want to be king but know i wont let you.

[THE STING]

And to... "Im driving" and the vega,...dont make excuses just race. You will make youselfs sound like Big daddy and you dont want to do that,.everyone knows he is full of shit.

[i'm drivin']

hey baby i'm just out swattin' at bats with a tennis racket, i make sense or get things right about as often as i hit one of them suckers!!!
those of you that know me picture that one! racket cane blind and bats... like a movin damn pinyata!
its late...i think i am sleepy...?

[10secvega]

And to... "Im driving" and the vega,...dont make excuses just race. You will make youselfs sound like Big daddy and you dont want to do that,.everyone knows he is full of shit.
I'm not making excuses,my Vega had a healthy smallblock on juice and ran in the 10's.It was fast,loud and had ill street manners.I chose to go a different direction with it.It's now Quick,quiet,and a blast to drive on the street.Anyone can build a "Race Car",put plates on it,drive it on local city streets,and get away with it.But when you have to trailer your car to go on a road trip,say from Youngstown to Massilion(which is only 50-60 miles) it's not a "Respectable street car.With all the technoligy there is today,there are no excuses for not having a well mannered fast street car.Not a race car pretending to be a street car.
P.S. Don't compare me with Big Daddy or i'll start calling you Ramlerman,fair enough?

[onefastermonte85]

hwy driving, is convience, I barely go on the hwy with my truck, i hate doing it, i try to take ricers to go anywhere, especially when i visit Y town. Its just economy, i wouldn't call a car who decides not to go on a hwy not a street car.

If that car makes 1200rwhp to the ground u know its gonna be tough to put that to the ground anyhow, so, iiid ont know.. detune it line em up and show that off, i think i'd drewl if i saw one :)

[70MC]

So if i buy Warren Johnson's pro stock GTO,Slap a license plate on it,tape a couple Mag lights to the front end and drive it 2 blocks to the plaza from my house.You would consider it a street car? and race me?with no excuses?
Very interresting Kevin.

This debate is a little harder that the auto veses stick. There are no cold hard facts to determine what is what, it is all in the precieved minds of the motorheads, there are no hard rules written anywhere. Some want to be able to drive anywhere they want to and still be able to go fast but maybe not as fast as someone who is just happy to be able to drive on the street legally, but maybe not as far or comfortably. You can not ask one of these two people whos car is more respectable for obvious biased reasons. The best way to find out what people think is more respectable is to ask someone that is on the outside looking in. I know what i like better, but, i am one of those biased people.

[Nitro]

I say it'd be a street car. "Could be driven anywhere" gets it. That doesn't mean it got x hundred mpg, with the AC on, it means it drives to Indiana for the nats. I drive mine all over the place, and if it ever makes awesome power it will still drive all over the place. The trailering issue, I can understand trailering to a track because breakage happens, and preparation is key, but a street car should NEVER be trailered to a show. Unless of course it's trailered by another street car, because you can't drive them both at the same time.

Here's one: what if your street car was radical as hell and got an astounding 4 (four) miles to the gallon, gutted and the whole nine, yet you drove it everywhere you went? Some would say because it has shitty street manners that it isn't a real street car, but I think if you drive it, it is. If Ramlerman wants to drive his car (which I've never seen) to the Plaza, it's a street car. I don't care if the plates are held on with zip ties.

Gregg, I disagree with "detuning" anything, that's a bad word. And I wouldn't knock you for choosing not to drive the monte on the highway. I knock you for trailering it from Austintown to Quaker and then calling Captain's car a racecar.

[9secmach1]

Listen amc girls, nobody is making excuses here, how can we when it's not a discussion on who beat who and why. Ya See Rob, like I told you on another page, up here we build two types of cars for the street. Ones like YOURS and then RESPECTABLE ones like MINE. Yes back in the day we didn't have od tranny's that lasted behind good hp, suspensions have improved greatly through the aftermarket, hp became much easier to achieve through good power adders. You may want to bail out of this topic if you wear your cars feelings on your shirt sleeve, iy may get hurt.

[70MC]

I say it'd be a street car. "Could be driven anywhere" gets it. That doesn't mean it got x hundred mpg, with the AC on, it means it drives to Indiana for the nats. I drive mine all over the place, and if it ever makes awesome power it will still drive all over the place. The trailering issue, I can understand trailering to a track because breakage happens, and preparation is key, but a street car should NEVER be trailered to a show. Unless of course it's trailered by another street car, because you can't drive them both at the same time.

Here's one: what if your street car was radical as hell and got an astounding 4 (four) miles to the gallon, gutted and the whole nine, yet you drove it everywhere you went? Some would say because it has shitty street manners that it isn't a real street car, but I think if you drive it, it is. If Ramlerman wants to drive his car (which I've never seen) to the Plaza, it's a street car. I don't care if the plates are held on with zip ties.

That is some very good logic, makes alot of sense.
Here is another simular sanario. Lets say someone pulled into our hangout with a very low 9 sec. car. Say he drove it from the far side of town, but could not drive much farther, and is 100% street legal. I would think that would be very cool, no matter what fuel is in the tank or what mileage it got, and had a stripped interior and was not very comfotable to drive, those things just do not matter much because they are conveinances. But lets say another person pulled in with a car that ran the same low 9 sec. time, but drove from somwhere near Pittsburgh, and could make a trip anywhere else, comfortable or not, race fuel or not. Imagine them both being your favorite make and model, which car would you want? The farther a car can drive, the easier they can do it, the more comfortable they are, the more respectable they are. There are too many variables to compare our cars any other way. It is hard to compare 2 cars that run different times. Compare 2 cars that run the same times, but do it a little different and think about which one you would like.

[THE STING]

I'm not making excuses,my Vega had a healthy smallblock on juice and ran in the 10's.It was fast,loud and had ill street manners.I chose to go a different direction with it.It's now Quick,quiet,and a blast to drive on the street.Anyone can build a "Race Car",put plates on it,drive it on local city streets,and get away with it.But when you have to trailer your car to go on a road trip,say from Youngstown to Massilion(which is only 50-60 miles) it's not a "Respectable street car.With all the technoligy there is today,there are no excuses for not having a well mannered fast street car.Not a race car pretending to be a street car.
P.S. Don't compare me with Big Daddy or i'll start calling you Ramlerman,fair enough?


Artie towed his car to massillon,.does that mean its not a street car...NO, it means he was coming along way and if he would of broke his rearend that night it would of really sucked for him,.. and its more than 60 miles. so i have no problem with that., its not like he tows it to your guys cruz spot, if he did then yes that would be a Poser. And big daddy is a big baby and for that i apoligize for the comparison. but i do disagree with your perception of a street car.

[NDA Racer]

Ed, how can it be respectable if it isn't a Streetcar? lol

Here's a question for you guys...


Which is more respectable. A Racecar that does alot of Street duty (hop in, cruise around for hours) and drives to the track to race (any track), or a Streetcar that spends more time at the track and riding around on a trailer?

[THE STING]

Listen amc girls, nobody is making excuses here, how can we when it's not a discussion on who beat who and why. Ya See Rob, like I told you on another page, up here we build two types of cars for the street. Ones like YOURS and then RESPECTABLE ones like MINE. Yes back in the day we didn't have od tranny's that lasted behind good hp, suspensions have improved greatly through the aftermarket, hp became much easier to achieve through good power adders. You may want to bail out of this topic if you wear your cars feelings on your shirt sleeve, iy may get hurt.




Dude thats all you do is make excuses.

And how is your car anymore a respectable street car than mine, im driving on all stock suspention with cal tracks bars, i have full stock interior and a stereo, i can cruz 60 down the h-way, so what if you got o/d,.. and i run low 9s and you run 11s. any time you talk to me you make an ASS of yourself just like on the akron web site.

Like i said on the other site,.. you want to talk smack with me i will take your money out of your pocket, i told you when my car is back together we can go on a drive all day on a saturday and run at 42 on one of there streetnights. take the bet chicken shit $1000.

[NDA Racer]

If I get beat by a larger cubed, half interiored, race gas only, lightened up ol turd, I will not be giving that guy respect for beating me.


He might not want your respect. Maybe beating you is all he cares about. Cause seeing your car in the rear view mirror, then you being a sore loser about it, is satisfaction enough. :tooth:

[70MC]

Sting, good point on towing a car to go do some racing. I would not say a bad thing about someone towing a street car to go do some racing, even if it was at a local track. Some of these street cars are fast as heck, something is going to break sooner or later.

NDA, good question. How fast is each car?

[NDA Racer]

The trailering issue, I can understand trailering to a track because breakage happens, and preparation is key, but a street car should NEVER be trailered to a show.

Then they can say they were preparing for incase they raced. Maybe street race, or stop by a track along the way, or if it happens to be SVN, they might make a pass. "They're just always prepared to race"


Trailers either have to be in or out. If I trailer my car you can call it a racecar all you want. A very slow one at that. Big deal! I still have fun with it and if you don't like it, then you can give me the money to build a real or respectable car.

Here's what Pittsburgh Knight Dan (he's still a Knight right?) defines as a Streetcar for his event

Simple Rules

These events are intended for street-cars and trucks only

Mufflers - Required
DOT Tires – Required (No slicks)
Current State Registration - Required
Proof of Insurance - Required
Vehicles must be driven in - No Trailers


That is pretty simple! Not very hard to comply to at all IMO!

[NDA Racer]

NDA, good question. How fast is each car?

Well JC, that's seems to be an answer right there. ET dictates if it's respectable. Not it's use? Right?

[THE STING]

[QUOTE=NDA Racer
Here's what Pittsburgh Knight Dan (he's still a Knight right?) defines as a Streetcar for his event.

Is that Dan chism, if it is i won a heads up meet he had back some years ago at quaker city. if its not i dont know him but agree with him.

[NDA Racer]

[QUOTE=NDA Racer]
Here's what Pittsburgh Knight Dan (he's still a Knight right?) defines as a Streetcar for his event.

Is that Dan chism, if it is i won a heads up meet he had back some years ago at quaker city. if its not i dont know him but agree with him.


Yes that's him.

And on the trailer thing. I'm ASSuming an honor system on that. When I say I drove a car in. I drove a car in. From my door step to the "gathering" and back. The night I raced Kevin (twice) I had just got back from cruising most of the day (frikkin hot humid day) in PA and put well over 200 miles on the car. She was very heat soaked and needed a break. I really didn't want to race her like that (I'm not saying I "woulda" won or "coulda" did better "if" she was cooled down, it's just I don't dig racing her that hot) but I thought, do I have a streetcar or what? If she broke, shame on me for not building something that could hold up.

[THE STING]

[QUOTE=70MC]Sting, good point on towing a car to go do some racing. I would not say a bad thing about someone towing a street car to go do some racing, even if it was at a local track. Some of these street cars are fast as heck, something is going to break sooner or later.


thanks, we run late at night and if someone was to break that far away it would just suck. If we stayed in our own towns we would not have to worry about it. but what fun is that.

[NDA Racer]

Some of these street cars are fast as heck, something is going to break sooner or later.



Also, something is gonna break on a 16 sec car sooner or later also.

[onefastermonte85]

nitro only reason i didn't run at svn was the week before hand at quaker track rental i messed up my outlet shaft in the trans and dearment fixed it for me, and went through the trans and made it nice again.. I didn't wanna hurt it, a week lata after spendin $$... but,

I dont call someone who trailors their car around a wanna be street car. A guy who trailors his car to the track i would call "smart" why because if he breaks and if you really do run ur car ur gonna break something, unless you got $$$$$$$$$$$$ in parts. Now if you go to the track time after time, and dont break shyt your not runnin ur car like u should, so you can drive it home :).. But if you do drive it there and it breaks, aint that a sonofabytch, because you gotta go all the way to get the trailor and bring it back, or tow it home, or beg someone to help fawkk that shyt, i know going to the track you find the weak links,
Ask mr. z when i launched and shredded my wheel studs, at thompsons, what would i of done if i drove it there.

I think guys who trailor their cars on long distances care about their motors, why wind the fawk outta them hwy driving, after you spend thousands on internals etc.. and big components, now if you trailor it 10 miles away then well you have yourself a race car unless well your going to the strip.

Captains car..... i think its 50/50 street/strip car, that thing is wicked, iw anna know the specs of the motor :)

[NDA Racer]

I dont call someone who trailors their car around a wanna be street car. A guy who trailors his car to the track i would call "smart" why because if he breaks and if you really do run ur car ur gonna break something, unless you got $$$$$$$$$$$$ in parts.

Yanno, that IS perfectly fine. But when I trailer my wife's 16sec Sunturd to the track, you better respect me for being smart! And NOT laugh! Cause if I drive that thing "like I should" Ima gonna throw the CV shafts outta that bitch!!!! And ain't it gonna suck to have to go fetch a trailer?

Just so long as there isn't a double standard going on. You hear guys laughing all the time at certain cars getting towed in. But those guys are smart, respect em.

[Nitro]

Oh yeah, well my car is a street car because...doesn't really make it a street car. Are some of you people guilty, or something? If you have to tell yourself it's a street car, and give yourself a supportive arguement that you might buy, it aint a street car, dude. If it's fast, don't worry about it...but wouldn't it be fun if it were? Wait, is it fun now? Is it what you want, or does it keep you up knights worrying about someone calling it a racecar?

[NDA Racer]

Is it what you want, or does it keep you up knights worrying about someone calling it a racecar?


Oh, so that's why I can't sleep at night! lol


If it's fast, don't worry about it... Define fast. :)

[10secvega]

? Wait, is it fun now? Is it what you want, or does it keep you up knights worrying about someone calling it a racecar?
i stay awake at night trying to make it go faster,and make it even more streetable.Now i have to make up for 200 lbs of strereo i just added to it.

[THE STING]

MAN LAW,..if its on the street and the guy is cruzing the car, its a respectable street car, some guys like B-daddy want to act like because he hops up a newer car with more options on it somehow that makes him more impressive than guys that build older cars, but i think he is a big f*cking cry baby. MAN LAW.

[mean83sc]

This is good shit! The only thing the whole streetcar debate does for people is give them something to bitch about when they get beat. It used to take knowledge to go fast and consequently few people were able to go fast and still drive their car (Good example is JC like 4-5 years ago, he had probably the most respectable N/A street car around here), now everyone has a fast street car because all it takes is $$$ some sort of forced induction and the internet/magazines. So now everyone is running around with fast shit and everyone wants to be the most respectable but really they're just giving themselves something to bitch about when they get beat.

If I ever finish my car and I beat some pig block turd with a 500 shot of nitrous, big tires, aftermarket suspension, he'll say "who gives a shit, my car has a radio! Does yours!" soon its going to get to "yea well I got seat heaters and my car automaticly parrellel parks, so mines a street car and yours isn't"

F it, if you got a vehicle that you can drive every weekend or whenever its nice out, its a street car. If you get beat, go take another loan out instead of adding more shit to your car to make it more streetable and slower.

[9secmach1]

Dude thats all you do is make excuses.

And how is your car anymore a respectable street car than mine, im driving on all stock suspention with cal tracks bars, i have full stock interior and a stereo, i can cruz 60 down the h-way, so what if you got o/d,.. and i run low 9s and you run 11s. any time you talk to me you make an ASS of yourself just like on the akron web site.

Like i said on the other site,.. you want to talk smack with me i will take your money out of your pocket, i told you when my car is back together we can go on a drive all day on a saturday and run at 42 on one of there streetnights. take the bet chicken shit $1000.

First of all, how can I make excuses, did we race and I lost or something? Your car will beat mine, no problem I admit it, can you sleep at night now? If you think I'm making excuses for the power my car makes, then you really are dumb and shoulda spent 7 instead of 6 years in high school ya dumb f#uck! When I said my car was respectable and yours wasn't, I was only joking dummy, I thought that was established on Akrons web page? I think your car runs great and hooks great on the street. I really don't know what all you have done other than stock block, crank, and rods so that is pretty impressive in itself. You can call me a cry baby all you want, it means nothing to me since I am not the one stomping his feet about his street car not being respectable. Take a chill pill, you have a respectable clean car. Now to my car. I am not building it to whoop everyones azz on the street this coming year so take me off your hit list unless your in the low 10 high 9 area. I unlike YOU race at the track 2-3 times a week in and out of town so I have to keep the car legal for the times I run. I WILL NOT put anymore cage in my car than I have to, to go quicker. Do I think a car with 85% stock components in the bottom 10's is respectable on pump gas HELL YES and that's all that counts, I can care less what you think about my car, at least it's not some ugly azz amc:chair:

[9secmach1]

MAN LAW,..if its on the street and the guy is cruzing the car, its a respectable street car, some guys like B-daddy want to act like because he hops up a newer car with more options on it somehow that makes him more impressive than guys that build older cars, but i think he is a big f*cking cry baby. MAN LAW.

NAPOLEON COMPLEX is what we have here. I for one understand that everyone on here builds there cars the way they want to or can afford to and EVERY car on here is a street car. Building a newer car doesn't make you more impressive as you stated above. Jims 1970 monte is the most impressive car I've ever seen and it won't beat you either Rob, but it's ALOT more respectable than yours. You think that all of us build our cars around beating you and that's not the case so get over yourself, stop telling us we're making excuses for building our cars slower than yours, it's getting old. You have your definition of a respectable street car and the rest of the world has theres. I went back and was re-reading our feud on akrons page and there aint NO WAY you won, for those of you that would enjoy some humorous reading, try this http://www.akronracing.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=582

[THE STING]

First of all, how can I make excuses, did we race and I lost or something? Your car will beat mine, no problem I admit it, can you sleep at night now? If you think I'm making excuses for the power my car makes, then you really are dumb and shoulda spent 7 instead of 6 years in high school ya dumb f#uck! When I said my car was respectable and yours wasn't, I was only joking dummy, I thought that was established on Akrons web page? I think your car runs great and hooks great on the street. I really don't know what all you have done other than stock block, crank, and rods so that is pretty impressive in itself. You can call me a cry baby all you want, it means nothing to me since I am not the one stomping his feet about his street car not being respectable. Take a chill pill, you have a respectable clean car. Now to my car. I am not building it to whoop everyones azz on the street this coming year so take me off your hit list unless your in the low 10 high 9 area. I unlike YOU race at the track 2-3 times a week in and out of town so I have to keep the car legal for the times I run. I WILL NOT put anymore cage in my car than I have to, to go quicker. Do I think a car with 85% stock components in the bottom 10's is respectable on pump gas HELL YES and that's all that counts, I can care less what you think about my car, at least it's not some ugly azz amc:chair:


HAHAHAHA sounds like your the one stomping around like a baby. GOT YA !

You race 2-3 times a week, how many low 11s time slips you got. are you sure that heap can take it.

[THE STING]

NAPOLEON COMPLEX is what we have here. I for one understand that everyone on here builds there cars the way they want to or can afford to and EVERY car on here is a street car. Building a newer car doesn't make you more impressive as you stated above. Jims 1970 monte is the most impressive car I've ever seen and it won't beat you either Rob, but it's ALOT more respectable than yours. You think that all of us build our cars around beating you and that's not the case so get over yourself, stop telling us we're making excuses for building our cars slower than yours, it's getting old. You have your definition of a respectable street car and the rest of the world has theres. I went back and was re-reading our feud on akrons page and there aint NO WAY you won, for those of you that would enjoy some humorous reading, try this http://www.akronracing.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=582

Fellows dont think for a minute that i dont respect what other people do because of what this idiot says.

And about you not building your car to try to be the top guy, that is bullshit and you know it. on the akron web site before it crashed and lost all the previous info, you were on there acting like you were going to be the king of the street,. now your attitude as changed since i got on the scene and you know you cant win, so cry your i dont care if your faster game to somebody else.

I have no complex, i like to race and i like to win, and i think any car guy would say the same thing. doesn't mean we always will but we like to try.

[70MC]

Also, something is gonna break on a 16 sec car sooner or later also.
On a 16 sec. car, that will more than likly be a flat tire or worse a dead battery, that can be bought at the nearest parts store. On a 9-10 sec. car that can be a blown rear, or worse. The more power they make the bigger parts they break and the sooner it happens. I have a 12 bolt rear with some of the best parts money can buy, but i have managed to break the pinion gear 2 times and the spider gears 1 time. They were Richmond gears and Moroso brute streangth posi.
I have been wanting to upgrade to a Dana.

[NDA Racer]

This is good shit!

Yes it is. It's always a hot topic LOL


It used to take knowledge to go fast and consequently few people were able to go fast and still drive their car (Good example is JC like 4-5 years ago, he had probably the most respectable N/A street car around here), now everyone has a fast street car because all it takes is $$$ some sort of forced induction and the internet/magazines.

Very impressive, Kurt. That's what kills me about stuff like the LS1 for example. All ya gotta do is go over to LS1tech.com and get the check list of what it takes to go 12s, 11s, 10s.... All ya need is the money. It's alot easier now than it was back then. 4 sure.

[9secmach1]

Fellows dont think for a minute that i dont respect what other people do because of what this idiot says.

And about you not building your car to try to be the top guy, that is bullshit and you know it. on the akron web site before it crashed and lost all the previous info, you were on there acting like you were going to be the king of the street,. now your attitude as changed since i got on the scene and you know you cant win, so cry your i dont care if your faster game to somebody else.

I have no complex, i like to race and i like to win, and i think any car guy would say the same thing. doesn't mean we always will but we like to try.
Before the web site crashed (prolly had an amc motor in it) nobody was running high 9's either. I can still back up the car with a 125 shot too. There is NO WAY I will be the top guy and trust me it bothers me a little so for now I'll keep playing the stock cams, stock intake, stock block, stock crank, stock unported heads, stock throttle body, stock timing chains, and stock oil pan till I'm blue in da face to rub it in to ya. :fordpower

[Nitro]

Define fast. :)
Wrong thread.

[THE STING]

Before the web site crashed (prolly had an amc motor in it) nobody was running high 9's either. I can still back up the car with a 125 shot too. There is NO WAY I will be the top guy and trust me it bothers me a little so for now I'll keep playing the stock cams, stock intake, stock block, stock crank, stock unported heads, stock throttle body, stock timing chains, and stock oil pan till I'm blue in da face to rub it in to ya. :fordpower


yea your right you didn't know of me then. but at that time im sure you would not of believed my car was as fast as it is with factory block, crank, rods and heads. And i believe that is more impressive than your stuff because my stuff is over 30 years ago, and your stuff along with all the big three has advanced as they should with techknowlegment, Remember you do use a p/a to go fast, im deep 10s without it and just a hell of alot faster with it.

And before you rag on me for running 30+ year old stuff i did it because i wanted to and ive enjoyed surprising people with it. like the look on your face when i beat Artie the 1st and 2nd time,..ive seen that so many times,. to me thats what made it fun, to beat someone people think you shouldn't. But my next combo will be a little more modern with some up to date stuff. New stuff like you got now.

[10secvega]

But my next combo will be a little more modern with some up to date stuff. New stuff like you got now.
Please tell me your not going to put a Mod motor in it:poop:

[9secmach1]

yea your right you didn't know of me then. but at that time im sure you would not of believed my car was as fast as it is with factory block, crank, rods and heads. And i believe that is more impressive than your stuff because my stuff is over 30 years ago, and your stuff along with all the big three has advanced as they should with techknowlegment, Remember you do use a p/a to go fast, im deep 10s without it and just a hell of alot faster with it.

And before you rag on me for running 30+ year old stuff i did it because i wanted to and ive enjoyed surprising people with it. like the look on your face when i beat Artie the 1st and 2nd time,..ive seen that so many times,. to me thats what made it fun, to beat someone people think you shouldn't. But my next combo will be a little more modern with some up to date stuff. New stuff like you got now.

If you only knew the conversation on the way home from that night in Akron dude. The first 45 minutes I don't think we said a word, then it was WTF just happened here? You sure that was an aMC and not a bbc or a mod motor or something???? Shhit I brought about 5oo bucks to put on Artie that night, THANK GOD we didn't race for money!!!!

[THE STING]

Please tell me your not going to put a Mod motor in it:poop:


No it will remain AMC, it will be indy heads and intake and custom grind cam for the heads and a stroked bottem end, and on pump gas n/a, and race fuel with the nos.

[THE STING]

If you only knew the conversation on the way home from that night in Akron dude. The first 45 minutes I don't think we said a word, then it was WTF just happened here? You sure that was an aMC and not a bbc or a mod motor or something???? Shhit I brought about 5oo bucks to put on Artie that night, THANK GOD we didn't race for money!!!!


LMAO! Someone told me the same thing atleast 15 years ago. thats funny shit.

[10secvega]

No it will remain AMC, it will be indy heads and intake and custom grind cam for the heads and a stroked bottem end, and on pump gas n/a, and race fuel with the nos.
I thought you where going to step it up?Look into a nice Stage II turbo Buick V-6.That'll get ya flyin'.

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/attachments/stage-ii-tech/18134d1162664808-9-sec-stage-ii-sale-100_9454-1-.jpg

[THE STING]

I thought you where going to step it up?Look into a nice Stage II turbo Buick V-6.That'll get ya flyin'.

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/attachments/stage-ii-tech/18134d1162664808-9-sec-stage-ii-sale-100_9454-1-.jpg


For as fast as i going to be, i need to stay AMC, allthough they(buicks) are impressive i still like to go fast N/A and alot more reliability with the AMC, my bro's gremlin was cruzed down here and had over 250 passes on it at the track and and a bunch of those were on nos. 750 n/a 250spray and my bro's AMX had over 300 passes on his and drove it to the track most of the time and ran high 10s n/a and 9.8s on spray and this was the first year out of five years with present engine that he actually broke and did not finish the season. Were happy with that.

[9secmach1]

Rob, if your building an all new motor from top to bottom, why aint ya gonna have your car out next year? You can fix the valve issues and defend your title.

[THE STING]

Rob, if your building an all new motor from top to bottom, why aint ya gonna have your car out next year? You can fix the valve issues and defend your title.

Im selling some parts off of it, and i would lose it as soon as i raced my brother anyway.

[9secmach1]

Im selling some parts off of it, and i would lose it as soon as i raced my brother anyway.

Losing to Ben doesn't count, that's a race car but just as well, Artie woulda spanked your azz anyway:chair: :fordpower wait I'll say it for you NUTSWINGER!

[THE STING]

Losing to Ben doesn't count, that's a race car but just as well, Artie woulda spanked your azz anyway:chair: :fordpower wait I'll say it for you NUTSWINGER!



Why would it be considered a race car,..because it fast. he drives it and cruises the car. Its on 10in tires not that it matters, on the factory chassis other than coil overs and ladder bars, but shit mustangs have that shit from the factory especially when u put some aftermarket replacments parts on the rear susp.

Plus it is only 11:1 comp. with a small roller.

[9secmach1]

just pushin your buttons, never even saw Bens car before

[THE STING]

Its just and ugly old gremlin. :)

[70MC]

For as fast as i going to be, i need to stay AMC, allthough they(buicks) are impressive i still like to go fast N/A and alot more reliability with the AMC, my bro's gremlin was cruzed down here and had over 250 passes on it at the track and and a bunch of those were on nos. 750 n/a 250spray and my bro's AMX had over 300 passes on his and drove it to the track most of the time and ran high 10s n/a and 9.8s on spray and this was the first year out of five years with present engine that he actually broke and did not finish the season. Were happy with that.
Sting, these cars running roller cams? If so what brand lifter, and how long do you use them?

[THE STING]

Sting, these cars running roller cams? If so what brand lifter, and how long do you use them?


Compitition roller lifter, And a few guys and the guy that does are work tells us every 250 passes they shoul be changed, Now i street drive mine more than i race it and been using them for four seasons now.

[mugger]

so say someone built a car that had a water to air Intercooled 101mm turbo charged BB that put 1200 to 1500 to the tires and could drive it anywhere. What would it be a street car or simply just respectable?




1200 to 1500 to the tires will be bad azz street car:suspect: if it is streetable

[CRX Si]

Posted by MILNER
so say someone built a car that had a water to air Intercooled 101mm turbo charged BB that put 1200 to 1500 to the tires and could drive it anywhere. What would it be a street car or simply just respectable?

Dragster. That thing would run 8's

[Lucky]

Posted by MILNER
so say someone built a car that had a water to air Intercooled 101mm turbo charged BB that put 1200 to 1500 to the tires and could drive it anywhere. What would it be a street car or simply just respectable?

Dragster. That thing would run 8's

You keep hanging around here long enough buddy, and we'll "convert" ya. There are MORE THAN ONE street legal 8 second cars running around on this board. Also quite a few in the 9's, more than you can count in the 10's, and most of the daily driver's run 13's or better. :angel:

[9secmach1]

Ed if you do it on pump gas in the 10's or better is respectable to me

[CRX Si]

You keep hanging around here long enough buddy, and we'll "convert" ya.

Not gonna happen. I love my Hondas..:blush:

[Lucky]

Not gonna happen. I love my Hondas..:blush:

That's fine too! It'd be a pretty boring place if we all liked/drove the same cars man.

BD, can we change that 10 to 11.06? LOL

[YEPPER]

I BEAT ARTIE NOW THAT Respectable !!!

[MILNER]

Dragster. That thing would run 8's[/QUOTE]

Well if you are local hope to see you out this summer! welcome to the board.