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Nitro
03-28-2007, 07:46 AM
Economics 101 as explained by a University of Georgia professor
Let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can understand.

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for
all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes,
it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do.

The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy
with the arrangement, until on day, the owner threw them a curve.
"Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to
reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20."Drinks for the ten now
cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes
so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free.
But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could
they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?'
They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they
subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man
Would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner
suggested that it would be fair to reduce each
man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work
out the amounts each should pay.
And so:

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four
continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men
began to compare their savings. only got a dollar out of the
$20,"declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man," but he got $10!"
"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a
dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!"

"That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10
back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't
get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"
The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the
nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay
the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have
enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is
how our tax system work . The people who pay the highest taxes get
the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them
for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they
might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics
University of Georgia

For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who
do not understand, no explanation is possible.

70MC
03-28-2007, 08:17 AM
I can always count on you Nitro for something thought provoking.
Now do we all have to go beat up Bigdaddy. That was the point wasn't it? LOL

trueblue
03-28-2007, 08:51 AM
If only real world economics were that simple. That's why I favor a straight income tax at a fixed rate for everyone. No deductions, no credits, NO loop holes. A fixed % with no way out. No brackets to screw the middle guy and stomp his desire to earn more, no more below this level you get a free ride to exploit everyones resources and no way to wiggle out of paying your fair share by investing in a numerical magician to make what you really earned magically disappear in a pile of paper work and transfers (a paper shell game of sorts). This is why I perfer sales taxes for funding as opposed to local income taxes and increased property taxes. :fordpower

Nitro
03-28-2007, 04:05 PM
If only real world economics were that simple. That's why I favor a straight income tax at a fixed rate for everyone. No deductions, no credits, NO loop holes. A fixed % with no way out. No brackets to screw the middle guy and stomp his desire to earn more, no more below this level you get a free ride to exploit everyones resources and no way to wiggle out of paying your fair share by investing in a numerical magician to make what you really earned magically disappear in a pile of paper work and transfers (a paper shell game of sorts). This is why I perfer sales taxes for funding as opposed to local income taxes and increased property taxes. :fordpower
I'm with you on that, even though I'd be paying more. I think it would also be easier to enforce.

9secmach1
03-28-2007, 09:31 PM
I can always count on you Nitro for something thought provoking.
Now do we all have to go beat up Bigdaddy. That was the point wasn't it? LOL


This coming from the guy who drinks for free! Ya no job having SOB!

70MC
03-29-2007, 08:59 AM
This coming from the guy who drinks for free! Ya no job having SOB!
Ok. You owe me a beer.