Thompson sunday

[10secvega]

Rock-n-roll capitol street machines Last track rental will be this sunday at Thompson.

[onefastermonte85]

what time i work 7am-3pm

[87GN]

I'ld like to go. Give me a call Kevin. I also need to make my NHRA License passes and hope to be able to do it there. NHRA dosen't accept IHRA licenses and I plan to be at NTR for NSCA next weekend.

[10secvega]

I was told it started at 9.but not syre you'll have to call Thompson.

[Z28]

Yep, opens at 9:00, racing starts at 9:30. They said get there early for heads up cause they might have a Gamblers race too late. See ya there!!

[10secvega]

I won't be there got some work to do in the Garage.Top secret Stuff!!!!

[Lucky]

ON DUTY. Stoooopid job! Yinz have fun without me........

[soon2beinthe's]

if anybody is interested i am going to be possibly going to thompson on saturday to get into dick murrays twin turbo bbc mustang and put a few shake down passes on it. i believe the gates open at 2:00 pm and we are going to try to leave at around 12:30-1:00 should be cool to watch me try to get this thing half way down the track.

[Lucky]

if anybody is interested i am going to be possibly going to thompson on saturday to get into dick murrays twin turbo bbc mustang and put a few shake down passes on it. i believe the gates open at 2:00 pm and we are going to try to leave at around 12:30-1:00 should be cool to watch me try to get this thing half way down the track.

You're already WRONG bro!

Read as: "Should be cool to watch me throw a beatin to this Stang the WHOLE way down the track!!!!'

Refer to my earlier post. STOOOPID JOB!

[soon2beinthe's]

gotta make a few slow passes on the new car. we dont know how or what it is going to do. this will basically be the first time down the track. plus i have never driven a 6.50 car yet. hell i cant even keep my 9.29 car of the wall at a good track. we will see how far i can get her to go. if anything goes wong you just pull the shoot right?

[10secvega]

gotta make a few slow passes on the new car. we dont know how or what it is going to do. this will basically be the first time down the track. plus i have never driven a 6.50 car yet. hell i cant even keep my 9.29 car of the wall at a good track. we will see how far i can get her to go. if anything goes wong you just pull the shoot right?
Whimps lift!

[soon2beinthe's]

dosent look like it will hapen this weekend. still a few things left to do on the car. maybe next week.

[10secvega]

dosent look like it will hapen this weekend. still a few things left to do on the car. maybe next week.
Did you Ckicken out?

[soon2beinthe's]

oh hell no. he has to get the fire system in the car and he ran out of time. he says we are going to take the car to norwalk for our track rental. we shal see. i want to get in it before that and get some seat time so i can try to get a full pass at norwalk. we are supposed to go out in the next few weeks. quaker is closed until the 1st of october so we will see.

[fastlane50]

Bob and I are going up saturday there is a benefit race for Rainbow Childrens Hospital. I think we should try and get as many Knights up there as possible. Jerry Streb and some of the Outlaw Warrior are supposed to be there also . Hope to see as many Knights as possible to put in some good pr.

[i'm drivin']

hey hey i know who that is!!! should be some good rides there on sat fo sho!!

[10secvega]

Jerry may not be there heard he brushed the wall.

[Lucky]

Who is, and who ain't? Where are we meeting at?

[70MC]

Not going to race today. Broke the 3.00 low gearset in the tranny. But not to great of a loss, been thinking of changing to a stock 2.46 first gear or maybe a 2.75 to help with tire spin since these stroker motors make decent torque. But a friend has lent me a tranny so i will be at Thompson on Sunday. It has a stock 1st gear so this will help in my decison on what 1st gear to go with. Hope to see many Knights there.

[Lucky]

TrueBlue and myself are making plans to go, even as we speak!

[Yogi]

What's that make Jimmy? Three since GOD :angel: was a kid. Just kiddin. Sorry to hear your stuff is down.

[Lucky]

Well, a bad day racin is still better than a good day at work. Me, TrueBlue, 70MC, Camaronutt, and the OTHER Kevin made it up there today. Had a great time guys, THANKS!!!!!!

P.S. Thanks for the help TB and the bald guy!!!!

[70MC]

It's always a good time out racing with the gang. I would also like to thank the bald guy for the use of the tranny, thanks Joe. Hope i can get my tranny back for next Sunday, going to try a 2.75 first gear.

[onefastermonte85]

i wanna go to thompsons this sunday coming up.. and run.. with dyno #'s at 1/2 run i have 11's hp :).. i can't wait for a full pull with all the timing.. thats in dyno land, but with the weight of my car, suspension i'll run 15's

[70MC]

There is a good chance i will get my tranny back on Friday. So it will be running Sat. and i will be at Thompson Sunday, if all goes well.
My schedule for the following week, Tuesday Dragway 42, Friday Dragway 42, and Sunday Thompson again. Come to think of it, that is my schedule untill the tracks close.

[87GN]

I plan to be at Thompson Sunday. My Cecil race got canceled.

[SVT THIS]

Craig is supposed to make his "mid 10 second pass", definately going to be there for that, he may need some help pushing it up the trailer... the 300 shot of nitrous may "blow the welds on his intake" - F&F

[Lucky]

I'll be there too. Sliiiiddddin' into the 10's tomorrow! Hopefully anyways.

[SVT THIS]

I'll be there too. Sliiiiddddin' into the 10's tomorrow! Hopefully anyways.
Make sure you guys get alot of video! Post it immediately when Craig runs a best of 11.80 :tooth: with his "new tune" ....cough cough 250 shot cough

[onefastermonte85]

or caaaaaboom
he wants to race me but i forfeit my cars fawkin slow right now.. in any case i'll still run him and lose if thats any satisfaction

[SVT THIS]

or caaaaaboom
he wants to race me but i forfeit my cars fawkin slow right now.. in any case i'll still run him and lose if thats any satisfaction

Don't be skeered, it's only a Mustang... yo

[mean83sc]

I may have missed it but, what time is this shindig tomorrow at thompson?

[SVT THIS]

Gates open @ 9a, racing starts at 9:30a... yo

[mean83sc]

dig yo :thumb:

[9secmach1]

Craig is supposed to make his "mid 10 second pass", definately going to be there for that, he may need some help pushing it up the trailer... the 300 shot of nitrous may "blow the welds on his intake" - F&F
Gary, I never said I can run a "mid 10 sec pass" dousche bag. I think I can though, however, I never said it before just now. :angel: I think I'll go low(er) 11's than I went before and hopefully low enugh to beat Gary. :fear:

[Lucky]

:angel: I think I'll go low(er) 11's than I went before and hopefully low enugh to beat Gary. :fear:

Oh fawk, that ain't hard. Been there, done that. It's just a Pontiac.

By the way Gary, The PRINCESS shirt is done! I'll have it at Norwalk, you're gonna look SOOO cute in it!

[onefastermonte85]

11.8 for me will be my run any bets :) i dont see it going any faster then that

[SVT THIS]

I dont see anyone running good at all today, this weather sux... oh, the MACH should get traction B/C it's not able to break the tires loose on n2o in the rain, eh? :tooth:

[onefastermonte85]

i fawked called it, 11.8 :( 113.8.. shut the car off at 1,000ft mark 96mph 1/8 mile though .. weird.. 1.62 60 ft.. from then on it went down hill bad ran outta gas fried like 4 spark plugs.. plug wires came off, swearing was going on.. i def wish i had my car earlier in the yr to do that more often, on a bright note i got my front end off the ground :)

[BB71MonteCarlo]

Aleast you got to run your car we got rained out for the 3rd day in a row at Norwalk.Wish they had called it earlier , we talked about heading to Thompson if they did :mad:

[Lucky]

And what a GRAND day it was at Thompson!!!!

Woo Hoo, I LOVE my SMALL BLOCK FORD!!!!!!

:fordpower :fordpower :fordpower

[10secvega]

Quaker got rained out ,so we beat foot up to Thompson.Battled some problems.Then hot lapped the car for an 11.00,a 10.88,and a 10.86.then the announcer Kicked me out!! :cop:

[onefastermonte85]

... LUCKY i got good vid of your car launching thanx to norb filming its awesome ur car fawkin movessssssss .. urs too kevin and ur brother, he has some other vid's what i'm thinkin of doin is just doin them separate runs so everyone can view them easier instead of the stupid long thing, i'm gonna do that with mine

Hey guys i got a problem as soon as i added that #5 spark plug wire to the car the car runs like shyt? really lean >.. what could cause the car to go lean? like that?

[Lucky]

... LUCKY i got good vid of your car launching thanx to norb filming its awesome ur car fawkin movessssssss .. urs too kevin and ur brother, he has some other vid's what i'm thinkin of doin is just doin them separate runs so everyone can view them easier instead of the stupid long thing, i'm gonna do that with mine

Hey guys i got a problem as soon as i added that #5 spark plug wire to the car the car runs like shyt? really lean >.. what could cause the car to go lean? like that?

Ship it! That was my best 60' EVER.

It was really kewl to see you all down there today! There were Knights everywhere you looked!

What an awesome day at the track!

[slowstang]

post them freeking vids already.

[onefastermonte85]

posted in tubby's

[Lucky]

Where at????

My bad! I'm on it!

[dubasracing]

well i still dont know yet whats making all the racket in mine, gonna pull it apart this weekend. but i was very pleased with the performance right off the trailer with no tunning and spinning badly off the line still managed a 1.56 60 foot and a 11.69 et so much potential with this motor i cant wait to kill the damn gremilins that are in it though!! anyone get any video or pics of my car? who was the guy at the starting line taking pics i saw him snap a few when i launched? oh well i will be at the rental for support and to help out with whatever i can and there is always the knightrun to look forward to also!!

[9secmach1]

Brad, a few guys standing around your car noticed you reved the hell outa your car as soon as you started it (cold) on the trailer. Do you think perhaps that may have been the cause of the potential rod knock? Oil is thick during start up and can't always get to all the lil clearances at high rpm's when it's dead cold. just my 2 cents. I hope everything is ok and maybe the converter bolts came loose or something but that was a hell of a good pass off the trailer!

[CMNGTSM]

I thought that a rod was trying to exit through the side of my block once, but as craig stated, it ended up being loose converter bolts. You may want to check that out 1st before pulling the engine.

[onefastermonte85]

its a monte carlo what do u expect..

http://www.eriestreetmachines.com/wheelsupmonte.jpg

[70MC]

its a monte carlo what do u expect..

http://www.eriestreetmachines.com/wheelsupmonte.jpg
Hey Greg, them young Monte Carlos need to take some tips from their big brother Monte!

I wish i would have gone. I was half way there and turned around and went home since i found out Art did not go, and i could not enjoy spanking him. JK i turned around since i thought it was going to rain. Bet if i would not have gone home it would have rained.

[onefastermonte85]

i think ur car is lighter then mine.. mines soo fawkin heavy i try pushing it anywhere its like moving a giant rock.. it needs to go on a diet bad.. stupid thing is stock except no heater box, and no back seat.

in any case.. jim if you would of watched it u would of said ILL it runs like shyt.. we tried gettin it right but it hates me and just was grumpy..

i love the pits scene and track scene.. i soo missed it without my car but it was nice hanging with the Y town guys and working on the car having people around i just wish it wasn't 34 degree's out .. Also norb and i spoke today how come theres no big motor head people in erie that use their cars like y town.. erie guys have "fast cars" in theory but u never know y town you say hey its fast lets prove it.. thast why i want to move there, just wish i could find a good job.

[dubasracing]

not a bad theory mr. bd but i dont think thats it i think it might be a piston slapping i had a little problem with one of the wrist pins on assembly it went in a bit tight i think thats the culprit but i will see this weekend i am pullin her on friday. i also think i have a problem with the msd or msd distributor after a pass it trys to stall then stalls and wont start back up untill it sits for awhile and its still hard to start but finally does also when i shut the car off the tach goes all the way to 9,000 and sits there till i start it up again,also on inital start up this only happened 2 times i shut the car off and it stayed running by it self for a few seconds then shut off , does anyone have an msd tester to check the box and distributor? or i heard they will rebuild the boxes and distributors for a fair price? im still looking for the guy that was taking pics of cars leaving the starting line??? someones gotta have some info on this guy?

[Lucky]

The dude taking the pictures drives a black Silverado with a cap on it. No digital BS so if you want a pic that he took on 10-9-05, you have to go back up and see him on 10-16-05. He has to develop them, and takes them back with him the following weekend.

[10secvega]

not a bad theory mr. bd but i dont think thats it i think it might be a piston slapping i had a little problem with one of the wrist pins on assembly it went in a bit tight i think thats the culprit but i will see this weekend i am pullin her on friday. i also think i have a problem with the msd or msd distributor after a pass it trys to stall then stalls and wont start back up untill it sits for awhile and its still hard to start but finally does also when i shut the car off the tach goes all the way to 9,000 and sits there till i start it up again,also on inital start up this only happened 2 times i shut the car off and it stayed running by it self for a few seconds then shut off , does anyone have an msd tester to check the box and distributor? or i heard they will rebuild the boxes and distributors for a fair price? im still looking for the guy that was taking pics of cars leaving the starting line??? someones gotta have some info on this guy?
Need to put a diode in line of the power wire,the MSD is back feeding through the charging system.

[theelcaminokid]

not a bad theory mr. bd but i dont think thats it i think it might be a piston slapping i had a little problem with one of the wrist pins on assembly it went in a bit tight i think thats the culprit but i will see this weekend i am pullin her on friday. i also think i have a problem with the msd or msd distributor after a pass it trys to stall then stalls and wont start back up untill it sits for awhile and its still hard to start but finally does also when i shut the car off the tach goes all the way to 9,000 and sits there till i start it up again,also on inital start up this only happened 2 times i shut the car off and it stayed running by it self for a few seconds then shut off , does anyone have an msd tester to check the box and distributor? or i heard they will rebuild the boxes and distributors for a fair price? im still looking for the guy that was taking pics of cars leaving the starting line??? someones gotta have some info on this guy?

normally when i shut my car off the tach does the same thing, is your shift light set at 9,000?

mine is set at 6,000 and it always goes there when i shut it off

[dubasracing]

ok well first of all a few good pieces of info and a few ..welll.. anyway the tach problem is not a ground if it wasnt grounded it wouldnt work properly the tach problem is caused by radio noise or noise in the electrical system which means the wire from the dist. to the msd box is running in a harness next to a 12 volt wire or its near spark plug wires that wire should be isolated. so fixed that problem , tested the msd box its fine tested the pick up with an ohm meter heres a tip readings should be between 400-1400 ohms cold and hot hot meaning heat it up with a hairdryer or heat gun to simulate engine temp. totaly rebuilt the distributor cleaned all the rust and scale off of the reluctor. now the knock issue is the rod bearings on cylinders 7 and 8 somebody will be getting a very nasty phone call monday!! those 2 bearings are basically submerged in oil all the time so its not lack of oil and the clearances were dead on the money! all other bearings look ok number one has a little wear on it other than that all else looks good probably gonna need a new crank since this one is brand new and is already .0020 under on the rod journal and .0010 on the mains!!! what a fricken fiasco!!

[70MC]

Brad, 7&8 being submerged in oil is not good enough, they need pressure to live. Don't say that to your machinest, he will look at you funny. Sorry about your bad luck, you will get it figured out, and when you do that thing is gunna screem. Not been a good year for me either.

[dubasracing]

Thanks for the confidence jim i appreciate it.. i had over 40psi of oil pressure going down the track and 40-60 psi from 1500 rpm and up at an idle i had around 25 so i think the high pressure spring will go in the new pump. but welp next year it is and without a complete car to rebuild like i did this year and only have to wrench on the motor this winter (maybe an antiroll bar) i should be out in the spring!! hopefully!! hey on a side note if anyone goes back up to thompson this weekend see if that guy has any pics of my car leaving im trying to see how bad it twisted i will reimburse you with interest! thanks.

[9secmach1]

So what do you think caused this rod knock? You said clearances were dead on.

[dubasracing]

OH BOY DID THIS ONE SCREW UP BIG TIME!! :boohoo: i now need a new crank,1 piston,camshaft,recon. the rods(hopefully),align hone,cylinder hone,and rings,also have to check for a bent valve since one smacked a piston due to bearing failure which brought the piston closer to the valves, cause of death still undetermined only conclusion from dietz and me is possibly didnt get all the shavings out of the oil cooler and lines??? everything was assembled correctly and oil pressure was there, no other explanations yet and as for you guys' so called dead rev.... not possible it wasnt super cold out as in 30 degrees or below and it only went to 5500 rpm which ive done for years and never had a problem. but oh well all i can say is back to the drawing board and maybe ill sneak a few bigger parts in her for next year ( hmmm.. maybe a roller for starters). I will be at norwalk to spectate and help anyone who needs it or if anyone needs something to use to get them going for norwalk let me know if i gots em you may use em god knows i have no use for them right now!

[mean83sc]

everything was assembled correctly

Booya Lee & Duck! :SMile-BB:

[9secmach1]

"and as for you guys' so called dead rev.... not possible it wasnt super cold out as in 30 degrees or below and it only went to 5500 rpm which ive done for years and never had a problem."
Lemme get this straight, you see nothing wrong with dead revving a cold motor regardless of outside temp? You will continue to do this throughout your racing career as well? I swear to GAWD I am not being condasending here, I just want to know your feelings on this topic. I also want to know why you do that, maybe there is a horsepower secret I don't know about yet.

[dubasracing]

the motor wasnt cold and it was running fat so i cleared the motor sheesh i gues i put that in the wrong context its not like i rev it all the damn time!considering my last engine went 4 seasons without a tear down and was still ok when i sold it! however this could be payback! lol in any case probably gonna have to get splayed mains,we also noticed the main caps were walking a bit. anyone have any comments on having the crank repaired (as in adding metal and regrinding like a cam) or just buy another one?

[CMNGTSM]

Crankshaft specialties (where i bought my crank from) also does repairs. They are cool to talk to and you can talk to the owner direct. If you are interested in this then give me a call for the number

[i'm drivin']

mmmm... unfortunately i am sure that crank was a chunk of change but i would have to recommend a replacement much more over trying to add anything to that one and have it reground, having the problems that u have had i cant imagine having that crank done and not worrying about the level of which the machinist ability to ground it perfectly hangin in my mind on the first fire next year i would be a nervous wreck, and honestly i have never heard of anyone doing that ever. plus with a new one you will have the ability to have it turned a couple of times hopefully not to need it done for a couple of years but the room to keep it in good shape is there if you need it. i am only assuming here but i would have to think that your goal now is to eliminate as much as u can the possibility of this happening again, and because that crank is at the center of the problems in question i would want to donate that thing to the trophy pile of parts for our local artiste to make a grand and heavy piece for someone to try to carry off from the podium and display in their heavy duty shelf in their home :)
again just my 2 cents.

[70MC]

I agree with Chuck.

[dubasracing]

well i have talked to several companies today and i am certain i will be purchasing a new crank and rods due to the fact ive been bitten twice with this rotating assembly, once my fault and the other well... thinking of trying eagle this time or going balls out with callies but undecided probably eagle since i had great luck with thier stuff over the years. as for a conclusion on the problem this time... i learned a few things today, oil cooler is not needed and furthermore there is also a gm service bulletin(concerning 4.3 suv with oil coolers) on this subject if there is any engine failure that shows any shavings in the oil it is necassary to replace the cooler and/or lines due to shavings cant be removed completely unless the cooler can be taken apart and visually cleaned. also ohio crankshaft noted that due to the oil cooler cooling the oil it might not have gotten warm enough to do its job properly lubricating the bottom end hence the bluing and hot spots. so it all is starting to make sense. getting rid of oil cooler and remote filter and going back to basics also possibly oil was too thin viscosity several companies recc. no thinner than straight 30 weight. i was running 10w30. very expensive lesson learned. as far as the crank being a trophy i think ill hang on to it for awhile as a reminder of what not to do!

[9secmach1]

Hey Dumass, you still running a 350 in that heap? If so, I'm curious to know if cranks are any cheaper than a 400.

[dubasracing]

350 mains but a 3.75 stroke i never price checked the 2 to see cause i dont want to run a 400.

[9secmach1]

I see, thanks